STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
WITNESS 20220706C
YOUFOUNDSEAL
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Thank you, Your Honor.
@WITNESS 20220706C May you state your name for the record?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
my username?
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
yes………….
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
Ok......
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Are you familiar with Deputy kaikjs?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
Yes
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
How so?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
I've been friends with him for quite sometime on Ridgeway. I forgot
how I meet him but yea.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
This is the State’s Exhibit O.
https: youtu.be/I-b5W7gKivc
Do you recognize it?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
Yes.
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Why is that?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
Because I recorded?
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Can you fast forward to the 4:00 timestamp and tell me what the
accused is seen doing?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
From the looks of it, he puts his PGE inside the dumpster.
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
@WITNESS 20220706C
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
Hi
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
This is the State's Exhibit N.
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
https: youtu.be/hQQpHNmBMtw
Do you recognize it?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
I recorded, yes.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Can you tell me what the accused says in this video?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
"Have you made a decision?
I don't want to pressure you but this really doesnt have much risk for
you, I would even provide you the account. I just need someone else to
use the account so i can deny it just being mine.
You would be getting stuff for very little risk. Seal you know I would
never snitch on you. Not like you are even doing anything illegal on
ur main."
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
In regards to "stuff"
Is there anything to suggest what the accused meant?
@WITNESS 20220706C
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
@STATE ATTORNEY Are you referring what i quoted?
Just so im clear
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Yes.
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
Dealing of PGE.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Would you say the accused was attempting to encourage, request, or
command you to possess police-grade equipment?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
Yes.
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
This is the State's Exhibit Q.
https: youtu.be/M1nd7Jdhf0M
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/06/2022
Dealing of possible PGE
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
This is the State's Exhibit R.
https: youtu.be/ekpbHWVWSv0
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
ok @PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER may the record reflect that the answer
to this has been changed
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/07/2022
Do you recognize these? @WITNESS 20220706C
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/07/2022
Yes
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/07/2022
Why?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/07/2022
Because I recorded them?
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/07/2022
Did anyone speaking in these videos encourage, request, or command
anyone to commit a crime?
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/07/2022
Yes from Exhibit Q, he was trying to sell me m2s. From Exhibit R, he
was trying to give me PGE.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/07/2022
No further questions, Your Honor. @PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/07/2022
I'll be off for tonight ill answer questions in the mornings or
afternoon.
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/07/2022
I am available now.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/07/2022
i have no other questions but the grand jury may ask you some
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
WITNESS 20220706C — 07/07/2022
Alright.
WITNESS 20220706A
BLACKMRCOW23
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
This was another video submitted by our informant
I believe it was the first video, i'm not 100% sure tho
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
A screen recording of a conversation between him and the accused,
correct?
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Yes.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Can you tell me what the accused says to our informant?
A quote would do very well.
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
The defendant asks the informant if they've made a decision yet, and
says that they dont want to pressure the informant, they would provide
an account. The defendant also claims that the informant would be
receiving free stuff with a very low risk, and that they would never
snitch out the informant
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Can you elaborate on the free stuff with a low risk part?
Question withdrawn
What does “free stuff” entail?
To the best of your knowledge and any context that may be provided
within the video.
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Free police grade equipment
So,
Police loadouts
Stetson M2As, Paras, Tasers
Batons
PI ammunition
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Mhm
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
Would you say the accused had encouraged, requested, or commanded
someone to do a crime?
@WITNESS 20220706A
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Encouraged.
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
@STATE ATTORNEY
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Sorry
Give me a sec
This is the State’s Exhibit V.
https: youtu.be/slEggf54LXI
Do you recognize it? @WITNESS 20220706A
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Yes.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Why is that?
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
I was the one that recorded this video
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Is the accused speaking in chat here?
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Yes.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
What’s he saying?
A quote would be best here.
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
"i just dispensed a loadout, went to a dumpster, i liked the SPS one
since u could duck behind a wall and it wasnt a populated area. i
would transfer a few items then just die quickly when i was gonna do
10-10 i would throw my whole loadout in this is obviously a flawed
system since i got caught but thats what I did"
"like i literally moved so much PGE, had a blast, like it was the most
fun i've ever had in ridgeway like i really dont care about your
irrelevant opinion"
"cause it's fun"
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
For the last passage “cause it’s fun”
Is there any applicable context?
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Yes, a member named YouFoundBluee asked the defendant, Kai, why he
dealt and in response, Kai said "cause it's fun"
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
What would you consider the accused’s statements to be?
Let me rephrase
Would you consider these statements to be an admission of guilt?
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Yes
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Let’s backtrack a little bit i forgot to cover some stuff
Let’s look at Exhibit O.
Now that you have seen exhibit V,
would you say that the accused was in full knowledge of what he was
doing in exhibit O and its illegality?
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Sorry could you please post Exhibit O
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
https: youtu.be/I-b5W7gKivc
WITNESS 20220706A — 07/06/2022
Yes, I would say he was in full knowledge of what he was doing.
And it's illegality.
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
Okay.
No further questions, Your Honor.
MAIN INDICTMENT CHANNEL
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/02/2022
can you subpoena this
PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER — 07/02/2022
later
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/02/2022
ok
GRAND JUROR 3 — 07/02/2022
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
I have read everything
GRAND JUROR 2 — 07/03/2022
I have read everything
PRESIDING JUROR — 07/03/2022
yes
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/03/2022
nvm the state intends to call WITNESS 20220706A instead
of
PRESIDING JUROR — 07/03/2022
call them
faster
do what u gotta do
AAAAH
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/03/2022
i don’t think all the people have read everything @PRESIDING JUROR
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/04/2022
#DownWithKaikjs
@GRAND JUROR 1 @GRAND JUROR 4
GRAND JUROR 4 — 07/04/2022
read everything
PRESIDING JUROR — 07/04/2022
@GRAND JUROR 1
@GRAND JUROR 1 @PRESIDING JUROR
@GRAND JUROR 1
GRAND JUROR 1 — 07/04/2022
@PRESIDING JUROR what
PRESIDING JUROR — 07/04/2022
have u read
everyti
GRAND JUROR 1 — 07/05/2022
@PRESIDING JUROR Si
PRESIDING JUROR — 07/06/2022
@STATE ATTORNEY The ball is in ur court im pretty sure
u gotta get site to do ur witness shit
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
site = dead
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
@PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
mr PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER
PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER — 07/06/2022
what indictment
oh
what witness do u want to call
@STATE ATTORNEY
and u still owe me a preliminary transcript in the other case
i am not typing the transcript until its the final one
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
okay i’ll get that started on
i hope
@PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER WITNESS 20220706A
is who we want to call
PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER — 07/06/2022
OK
ILL FILE THE PAPERS
he is a voluntary witness yes?
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
yes
he’s
STATE ATTORNEY — 07/06/2022
GRAND JUROR VOTING
GRAND JUROR 2 — 07/07/2022
What do you think
last one not sure
PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER — 07/07/2022
my instructions did not list each offense, they just gave instuctions
for each type of offense
GRAND JUROR 2 — 07/07/2022
im gonna die.
PRESIDING JUSTICE SITEOWNER — 07/07/2022
STATE V. KAIKJS
GRAND JURY TRANSCRIPT
u all control the final indictment
PRESIDING JUROR — 07/08/2022
@GRAND JUROR 1 @GRAND JUROR 2 @GRAND JUROR 3 @GRAND JUROR 4 vote
@GRAND JUROR 1 @GRAND JUROR 2 @GRAND JUROR 3 @GRAND JUROR 4 vote
@GRAND JUROR 1 @GRAND JUROR 2 @GRAND JUROR 3 @GRAND JUROR 4 vote
@GRAND JUROR 1 @GRAND JUROR 2 @GRAND JUROR 3 @GRAND JUROR 4 vote
GRAND JUROR 3 — 07/08/2022
ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok
PRESIDING JUROR — 07/08/2022
and if u wanna discuss anything, we can
kk have fun
GRAND JUROR 2 — 07/08/2022
already voted
took
5 minutes
